Interview with
Audrey Robinson (Walter),
stoneworker
- via email with DC
Audrey's cuke page
Ah. Tho I revered him he also
seemed like a grandmother to me, evoking my dear Italian speaking Nana,
kindly & warm.
In the course of working on the Early Tassajara Alumni Reunion, I
contacted Audrey - thanks to her and Bob Walter's son, Eliot, contacting
me via cuke which happened originally because he'd put his rakusu on some
site asking what the kanji meant. Eliot (and his sister L*e*t*h*e) had been
one of the kids to receive rakusu (bib-like square cloths hung by straps
around the neck and signifying ordination) from Shunryu Suzuki in a kids'
ordination ceremony at Tassajara back in '69 as I remember. At least
that's the summer they sewed them. I asked Audrey to share her memories of
Suzuki, Tassajara, and anything else she wished. Thanks Audrey. - DC
11-07-07
During the summer of '69 and the
following training period [at Tassajara] my job was cutting stone - corner
stone, water basin, lantern. I was situated outside Roshi's cabin where he
sometimes sat in the doorway warming his bare back in the sun. He loved
the tapping sound of hammer and chisel that brought back good feelings of
a former time and place in Japan. (I'm sorry to say I've forgotten where)
For me it was a special period of
learning - sharing the love of stone, mindful hits, the slow revealing of
form and the opportunity to speak with Roshi about Zen practice just by a
brief reference to the work at hand. One day he suggested we look for a
river rock to cut for a lantern. I was amazed at his agility and quickness
as he happily stepped from stone to stone along the dry creek bed, asking
me what I thought here and there (I was probably a bit iffy) then spotting
without hesitation exactly the right one for the job - a long somewhat
rectangular rock. It was winched up, I think, then dragged by sled to its
work location and stood on end. A 4-sided opening was cut near the top
allowing space for a candle. Where was the lantern going? What should it
look like? Roshi wouldn't say. He was coy- "just cut." Or course.
Later I found out it was sent to New
York as a gift [for the opening of the new zendo of the Zen Studies
Society whose teacher was Eido Tai Shimano Sensei whose teacher was
Nakagawa Soen Roshi].
Never during the cutting process was I
given room for the attendant anxieties that might arise from thoughts such
as where, when, for whom or adequate enough work.
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11-26-07
How came I to Tassajara? I was married
to Bob Walter at the time. We had been sitting with Tai San (Eido Tai
Shimano sensei, later to be known as Eido Roshi) at the New York Zendo in
1967.
I've forgotten how a Wind Bell came our
way, but the pictures captivated me- Zen folk working together in
residence, an astounding location, and Suzuki Roshi. We visited the summer
of '68 with our children L. and Eliot and stayed during the practice
period. We returned the following summer and stayed through the training
period and Christmas. I returned the summer of '70 with Don Robinson to
whom I'm presently married.
My assigned work had been cleaning
guest cabins, but at some date (can't recall) I volunteered to cut a
cornerstone for the kitchen, a skill I had learned earlier at Kansas
University's sculpture department. I had returned to Tassajara in '69 with
a stone Buddha - a not very well crafted one, but a work of single minded
practice striking the hammer - and was happy to engage myself again in
this way. Stone Buddha sat on a wall somewhere (?) by the han [wooden
board struck with mallet]. Anyway this stone business plus some stone
poems led to the stone basin (where is it now?) and lantern I mentioned
earlier.
A couple of odd memories: During the
7/68 visit of various teachers to Tassajara I was attendant for Soen Roshi.
(I had sat sessions with both Soen Roshi and Yasutani Roshi in NY.) The
students were preparing for the big event, sweeping the outdoors,
dampening the ever present dust. I was raking and spraying. Don't rake too
vigorously! Peter Schneider said to me in passing. He stops and shows me
how to rake - one pull at a time, slowly. Strange, I think, not to hurry
and learning how to rake at 34. It took me a while not to be pissed.
Later on when I showed the visitors to
their guest cabins Tai San happily and promptly lay down. Ahhhh. It's hard
to think I could have been so young and green as to be shocked by my
teacher - the upright, militant samurai (or so he projected himself),
flopping on a bed. Such an awakening. I'm glad I'm older. Such small
curiosities to stick in the mind.
David, if you like and if you have
interest and/or time, send me your address. I'll send some of my cartoons/comix.
Don't know how to do it on this thing.
[I have asked her to yes, please send
them. - DC]
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12-09-07
I can't give you much anecdotal
material. I don't keep a journal, am not a nat'l storyteller and am
generally sieve brained. Maybe that sounds bad, huh? Not so much. Anyway,
a couple of moments with side info.
When I arrived at Tassajara I could
sit, still & long. I could listen, and hearing Roshi's talks vanish into
clarity and space. Or else hypnotize myself rite out of there, yet
retaining to this day the magic of his words, the wall, the cool floor,
the sangha and quietness, the soft light, Ed's shaking, the smells,
sucking the setsu... [part of oryoki eating ritual] Roshi gave us
instructions for the session: Count from 1 to 10. Count! Sitting w/Tai San
at the NY Zendo, at the Kensho Derby, hadn't I graduated from counting to
pure Shikan Taza? Now a week of 1 to 10. 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10 and again-
to what end? To know I was in nursery school. What a gift.
And at the closing ceremony (called
what?) [shosan] when it was my turn to appear before Roshi with our/my
understanding, I snatched the stick from his hand. What did he see? A
flash of bewildered insecurity that I couldn't begin to acknowledge? He
said, so very gently- It is too heavy for you. Here, let me hold a while.
Ah. Tho I revered him he also seemed
like a grandmother to me, evoking my dear Italian speaking Nana, kindly &
warm.
When I visited him for dokusan (the
only time) in SF, it was immediately a chatting session. I recall none of
the conversation. He clapped his hands in delight, we ate cookies, and he
sent those in line away. An afternoon of being there, exchanging this &
that, and then I was gone to do the hippy thing in Humboldt county. In the
day to day world I never saw him again. Conversation: leaves, wind.
-I know you'll return, he said to me at
Tassajara after telling him I had to leave. (I had a a man to chase) -How
so? -I just know, he replied, smiling, thumping his heart. -I just know.
Hello, Roshi.
It's interesting to have these few
exchanges with you, David. Like a tap root seeking ancient soil. I've
continued sitting here, there & here finding a sangha to share practice
with. About 16 yrs ago I discovered a different sort of teacher, Master
Hiang The, and threw myself into Shaolin Martial arts - a wonderfully
complementary practice, again body/ breath/mind, again ego taking new
knocks & healing w/sparring & forms. And Tai Chi (Lee Chia style), TC
sword and Ba Gua. Forever revealing. I hope this body holds out.
A couple of asides- Tho I had planned
to remain, Tassajara reminded Don of boarding school. Not for him. All
those bells and rules. I met Don thru odd karma and Brother David
Steindl-Rast. We stayed briefly w/the Johansens then I took an apt across
from ZC.
Time past. Weird. Thanks for allowing
me to reminisce. And thanks for all your archival efforts and writings.
Audrey
12-26-07 - Tassajara: One day happy
little Eliot was walking somewhere by the han & between the kitchen and
the dining room when he blew his what-do-you-call those paper party favors
that unroll and toot at Suzuki Roshi. Roshi turned and rapped him on the
back with his kyosaku. I've heard this story many times. He left a mark!
Eliot told me with some delight. -Was he kidding, I asked. -No. I was
being noisy and disrespectful. An American kid, in other words.
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